Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Review: They Did it Again!

Linux Mint is one of the most popular (GNU/Linux) operating systems around, and according to Distrowatch.com‘s popularity ranking factor, for many years now Linux Mint has been on the top 3 most popular distributions (now it’s actually the number one!, surpassing Debian and Ubuntu. By the way, Fedora’s ranking is sinking fast, no surprise there though. Fedora is just a distribution for the coding elite of the GNU/Linux world and not for the average user, there I said it!). And there’s a good and a sensible reason for it (in my opinion anyway).

The reason is, with Linux Mint there is a sense of continuity where by change, it progresses. In other words, compared to the ‘radical’ and often chaotic changes that some other desktop environments bring such as GNOME, ‘change’ in Linux Mint is progressive. For instance, if you look at the evolution of the Cinnamon desktop (first released in 2011), so far it has been very consistent (UI-wise), yet, things have been vastly improved and hundreds of new features added. But if you look at the evolution of GNOME, by each major release (1x -> 2x and then from 2x -> 3x) there has been radical changes through which an entirely different looking (and functioning) desktop emerged. And sometimes the end result is quite chaotic for many end-users.

That being said, “Are radical changes bad?” That I cannot say. However, it’s usually the young and the energetic who are more prone to make radical choices. The old, the experienced and the settled, usually is more careful in their choices because experiences have taught them that there is a guaranteed positivity in change when it’s progressive. The best example is to look at the evolution of the Apple Mac OS. I mean look at the below screenshot. That’s how Mac OS used to look in 1984! And here we are after 32 years where so many radical changes have occurred, yet amazingly, the core identity of the desktop is still there, is it not?

Apple_Macintosh_Desktop

I don’t know what the future will bring for Linux Mint’s Cinnamon desktop environment, but here I am using the latest version of it (Linux Mint 18, Cinnamon) after 2 years, and for the past 3 days, I experienced the same stability, fastness, efficiency and although vastly improved, the same looking desktop environment that was there, not only 2 years ago, actually it was like this from the very beginning. And the users don’t complain! And according to Linux Mint developers, it’s actually the 3rd most popular operating system used on Earth, after Microsoft Windows and Mac OS. That’s how it should be done, methinks. And speaking from a software developer’s point of view, I think it’s alright to make radical changes at the early stages where one is still in the process of creating a core identity. But once you’re past it, you should move on with progressive steps not chaotic confusions. For instance, Ubuntu came up with Unity and it was a radical change back then, a totally revamped desktop UI. And they should better stick with it for many years to come. Otherwise, if all you ever do is introducing chaotic changes on how things are done, you either are a genius or an idiot who don’t have a clear goal in mind, let alone displaying the lack of instinctively mastered skill.

The philosophical lesson is over, let’s move on with the Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Review 🙂 . So as soon as I heard a new version of Linux Mint has been released I downloaded the Cinnamon edition right away. Linux Mint is not restricted to their in house built Cinnamon desktop but also features the Xfce (not updated to the ’18’  release yet) and the MATE desktop. But I always was very interested in Cinnamon (I mean the desktop, yes, love the vegetable also 😀 ) and that’s all I’ve ever used with Linux Mint so I decided to use it here for the review also.

Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Desktop

The Cinnamon flavor comes with Cinnamon desktop 3.0.6, Kernel 4.4, X.org 1.18.3 and is based on the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS core. The disc image size is about 1.7 GB. Linux MintCinnamon desktop displaying its version (LM 18) Cinnamon 18 will be supported up to 2021 with security fixes. UEFI is fully supported, but you need to turn off ‘Secure Boot’, otherwise you’re required to do some work.

I don’t have performance related data from a recent Linux Mint Cinnamon release, thus I decided to compare its performance with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. However, when I was done reviewing Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and Ubuntu 16.04 Flavors comparison, I received a new laptop. So I decided to install Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on it before I installed LM 18 Cinnamon on the new laptop. Then I re-measured the performance related data because comparing two distributions that were used on two totally different hardware doesn’t make any sense. And as always, before I begin the Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon review, here’s brief description of the hardware details of the new laptop:

Intel Core i7-5500U, Hybrid GPU Setup (Intel Broadwell HD Graphics 5500, Nvidia 920M), 4GB RAM DDR3, Hybrid Permanent Storage Setup (Seagate 5400 RPM, 500 GB rotational disk and a Kingston 24 GB SSD), Qualcomm Atheros AR9565 Wireless Adapter, Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller, Realtek ALC3236 Sound Card, LED Display (1366 x 768 resolution, 60 FPS/HZ). It's an Asus laptop (F302LJ-FN024H).

This laptop as you can see, includes two storage devices. One 500 GB rotational disk and another 24 GB SSD, both separate drives (not a 2-in-one type hybrid drive where a single controller controls both the SSD and the rotational disk). And since I don’t have a lot of SSD space remaining, and since I’ve installed the main operating system on the 24 GB SSD (I use it as the ‘root’ partition actually, the ‘Home’ partition is located on the rotational disk), I installed Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon into the conventional and the slower, rotational HDD instead.

As always, also remember that, after installing the OS, I boot(ed) into the OS 5-6 times for letting things to settle down (first time ‘wizards’ and background system services to be done with their setups) and then I disabled the Startup Welcome screen and the Update manager from running to keep the accuracy of the memory usage readings high. User auto-login was also enabled and I also added System Monitor shortcut to the task-bar. And only after measuring the performance related data (boot-up times, memory usage, power usage, system responsiveness, shutdown delay) I started to use the operating system and discover what’s new.

Also kindly remember that I’m using Linux Mint Cinnamon with a 2 year absence. Therefore, some of what I may say ‘new’ might already have had been there in the past.

The Installer, GRUB & Boot-Up Logo…

I’ve decided to skip both the installer, the boot-up logo & GRUB. First of all, LM 18 uses Ubuntu 16.04 LTS installer and I’m sure you all are familiar with it. Secondly, the GRUB and boot-up logo haven’t changed either. Therefore, I’ll go over to the Desktop straightaway.

The Desktop

Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Desktop

Except for the new wallpaper, it’s a typical Cinnamon desktop UI where a Microsoft Window’s traditional looking desktop is presented (a task-bar at the bottom of the screen with a ‘XP’ type start-menu. Come on now, you know all these details 🙂 ). The desktop right-click context menu has changed a bit though. It’s filled with couple of useful shortcuts, ‘Desktop Settings’ is a newly added shortcut if I’m not mistaken.

Desktop context menu (Linux Mint Cinnamon 18)

If you find it consists of too many shortcuts, then you can easily disable a few through the file manager -- Nemo. This is because some elements of the desktop (desktop icons and the right-click context menu) is controlled through the file manager. For that open the file manager and go to ‘Edit‘ -> ‘Plugins‘, then under ‘Actions‘ you can disable some of the items from being displayed on the desktop context menu.

Desktop context menu after customizing through Nemo (Linux Mint 18)

Nemo (a fork of GNOME’s file manager) also contains many useful features unlike the GNOME file manager. For instance, nowadays GNOME’s file manager doesn’t have a ‘Compact View’ option which I used to like quite a lot when viewing folders filled with files and other folders as it saves display space. Nemo however, still has it. Through the ‘Preferences‘ -> ‘Toolbar‘ section, you can also add/remove a few more features (‘open terminal’, ‘create new folder’ etc) into the main toolbar as well. And unlike the GNOME’s file manager, Nemo allows more customization options too.

Compact View and other tool-bar customization options in Nemo (Linux Mint 18)

One annoying issue I found while using the Cinnamon desktop is the ‘Window list Thumbnails’. Cinnamon displays a thumbnail of docked applications on the bottom task-bar when you move the mouse pointer over them. But the problem is, as long as you keep the mouse pointer over it, it never fades away! For instance, let’s say that I was using the text editor and moved mouse pointer over the terminal window on Annoying window list thumbnails (Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon)the task-bar to see a preview (let’s say I was running a command and wanted to see if it has been finished. Yes the thumbnails update in real-time). Then after looking at the thumbnail update, if I started to re-type on the text editor window without taking the mouse pointer away from the docked terminal window, the thumbnail stays there forever overlapping with the text editor. A major distraction. The only solution is to completely disable the thumbnails, but I quite like them. So one suggestion I would like to make to the Linux Mint developers is how about stop showing the thumbnails as soon as a user starts to use his/her keyboard, even if the mouse pointer is focused on a certain application window docked on the task-bar? That’s a better approach because if the keyboard starts receiving inputs, it means then the user focus is in somewhere else.

One of the other major changes of the Cinnamon 3.x desktop is that there is now a brand new theme called ‘Mint-Y’, although by default, the old ‘Mint-X’ is still used. From new icons to colors (icons, menu items etc) and to how the buttons look like on application windows, ‘Mint-Y’ brings major changes. It’s looks flat but still retains a subtle 3D look, a very modern looking theme. I like it a lot. The reason it isn’t applied by default is because it’s still in active development if I’m not mistaken.

New 'Mint-Y' theme of Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon

Mint-Y theme featuring on few user applications (Linux Mint 18)

Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon desktop with the Mint-Y theme

The ‘System Settings’ has always been quite impressive with Linux Mint as it gave access to so many customization options without compromising simplicity. This release is no exception, except, compared to my Linux Mint 17, now there are many more options, and under each settings window (‘Applets’, ‘Desktop Settings’, ‘Windows’, ‘Power Management’, ‘Notifications’ etc) options are categorized & listed under tabbed windows. This again has helped Linux Mint to retain its simplistic approach, yet still to present lots of customization options to the user.

Tabbed window approach to System Settings (Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon)

The Update Manager also has received a new option to easily set its behavior. By simply choosing between 3 available options, users can make Linux Mint Update Manager to:

  1. Update the system with stable versions of software
  2. Update the system with stable versions of software as above, but show whether the user would like to install additional updates which could lead to instability issues
  3. Update everything, and if something breaks, then you better had known how to fix it!

New Update Manager Settings page (Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon)

I quite liked this feature. The settings page alone looks very professional.

Introducing X-Apps

This is the other major change in Linux Mint 18, it’s called ‘X-Apps’. According to Linux Mint’s founder Clement, the reason for their existence is as follows:

Work started on Linux Mint 18. One important aspect is GNOME 3.18 (the project and all its components, not just the desktop environment), which includes GTK and many applications used primarily by Cinnamon, but also Xfce and to a lesser extent MATE. A lot has changed between version 3.10 (used in Linux Mint 17) and version 3.18. GTK itself and many of the GNOME applications now integrate better with GNOME Shell and look more native in that environment. The bad news, is that they now look completely out of place everywhere else….

… From a long term point of view, we knew this would become more and more of an issue but it was decided early that Cinnamon would not get its own applications, because it represented too much work and there were too few differences in application needs between Cinnamon, MATE and Xfce. It just made no sense to invest time in making “Cinnamon applications”. For similar reasons we invested very little time in developing MATE applications.

The idea of working on apps which would be generic, perfectly suited to run in both Cinnamon, MATE and Xfce (and possibly other desktop environments) made more sense. It’s an idea we’ve had for a while and with the start of a new Mint 18.x series the timing was right to get this project started.

Basically, X-Apps are a collection of existing GNOME (3.18) applications that are redesigned (patched) to work across three main flavors of Linux Mint: Cinnamon, MATE and Xfce. In other words, rather than developing these applications for each flavor individually (which’ll take a lot of human effort & time) they’ve centralized the development in such a way so that they can develop each application to work across all 3 flavors simultaneously.

Currently Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon edition ships with 4 X-Apps: xed (text editor), Xreader (document viewer), Xviewer (image viewer), Xplayer (video player). Again, they’re all existing GNOME applications but patched to work (mainly being displayed correctly without themes related issues etc) across all 3 flavors of Linux Mint.

Some Of the Applications Included:

Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon ships with updated software tools such as: Firefox 47.0, Thunderbird 38.7.2, GIMP 2.8.16, LibreOffice 5.1.2.2, Pix 1.0.5 (image organizer), Transmission 2.84, Banshee 2.6.3, mintinstall Software Manager 7.7.3, synaptic software manager 0.83. These are just a few to mention.

P.S: Unlike in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS where it struggled to install ‘.deb’ files by default, in Linux Mint 18 they can be installed without any issues because the ‘.deb’ files are handled by a separate utility (gdebi -- Ubuntu doesn’t include it by default).

Installing a .deb package in Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon - It works!

Multimedia Playback, Adobe Flash and Skype

Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon doesn’t ship with proprietary multimedia codecs by default, although it used to include them in the past. However, there is a dedicated software (GUI) that can be used to install all the necessary proprietary multimedia codecs easily. Just type in ‘codecs’ into the start-menu and you’ll find it.

Linux Mint 18 also includes a command-line tool for creating an offline-multimedia codec pack too! You can use this command-line utility on a Linux Mint 18 live DVD/USB drive on a computer that has internet access to create a codec pack, and then use that to install those codecs on a computer that’s running Linux Mint 18 that doesn’t have an internet connection. To do that, once boot(ed) using the live media, open the terminal and enter the below command:

apt download mint-meta-codecs

Offline multimedia codec pack created by Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon

This will create a compressed file called ‘mint-meta-codecs.tgz’ on the Home folder of the live DVD/USB. And on a computer where you have installed Linux Mint but don’t have internet access, you can simply extract the content of this file and simply run the ‘install.sh’ file (just double click on it and choose ‘Run in Terminal’) to install the codecs. I would like to take this opportunity to give my thanks to Linux Mint developers on their broader understanding of their user base. I’m more than sure that thousands of people all around the world will appreciate it. Not everyone is so fortunate to have high speed internet connections to their computers, but sadly some core GNU/Linux developers don’t exactly see things in this light. Their ‘vision’ is very narrow.

I installed VLC manually for my multimedia needs and so far I’ve never come across any issues while playing videos (both on my Intel and Nvidia GPU). I use Google Chrome as my web browser nowadays (Chrome isn’t included by default) and Chrome comes with the latest version of Adobe Flash. I’ve been watching many Flash videos online for the past few days on Linux Mint on Google Chrome and haven’t come across any issues. It too has been quite satisfying.

Skype running on Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon

I’m not a heavy Skype user, but I’ve been using the official but outdated Skype on Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon and except for that floating tool bar thing (again, I’m no avid Skyper, don’t know what’s that thing called), Skype too has been flawless. From system tray icon to audio/video (incoming and outgoing video feed from the webcam) calls, everything worked extremely well. About the floating tool-bar, I can’t move it around or use any of its functions either (nothing happens when I click on its various buttons -- close, stop the call etc).

Teamviewer 11 running on Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon

I also had to install Teamviewer to troubleshoot a Windows 8.1 laptop that belongs to one of my aunts and it too worked without any issues whatsoever. So all in all, Linux Mint 18 has been able to easily satisfy my everyday needs as an end-user.

Performance Comparison

Now allow me to share with you the performance related data. First I’ll start off with the Boot-up Speed.

Boot-Up Speed

Boot-Up speed means from the moment I hit enter at the GRUB boot-menu till the desktop gets fully loaded. Although since I always keep the Wi-Fi turned on connected to my Wi-Fi router, I don’t necessarily wait till the Wi-Fi connection is ready, if the rest of the startup apps of the desktop are loaded. If the rest of the desktop is fully loaded, then I simply stop measuring (I use the timer app on my Android phone for measuring the time) despite the current state of the Wi-Fi connection.

LM 18 Cinnamon vs Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - Boot Up Times Graph

As you can see both Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon scored quite similar speeds while booting, although, Linux Mint 18 was about 4.4% faster (1.5 seconds). This could be ‘explained’ when you look at the memory usage readings.

Memory Usage Upon Desktop loading

Unlike with Boot-up Speed measurement, I wait till all the aspects of the desktop is fully loaded (Wi-Fi connected, all the startup apps fully loaded, startup notifications finished etc) before I measure the memory usage. I also had previously added the system monitor shortcut to the task-bar because if I was to open it by navigating or searching through the start-menu that would’ve increased the memory usage reading thus negatively affecting the reading. Once I open the System Monitor, I also waited about 10-20 seconds to let things settle down as well. Only after that I noted the current memory usage reading and wrote it down (this is how I’ve been doing it in all these years actually).

LM 18 Cinnamon vs Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - Memory Usage Graph

As you can see, Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon consumed 32.3% less memory compared to Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. In other words, while booting, Linux Mint 18 had 32.3% (about 205 MiB) less data  to be copied over to RAM from the main storage (because that’s what happens when an operating system boots) and that may explain why Mint was slightly faster to boot.

CPU Usage at Idle

CPU Usage at idle (Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon)

On both operating systems, the CPU usage at idle (meaning no actively running user applications -- web browsers, text editors, music managers etc) was extremely low (about 1% at most). And on many occasions it even reached 0% as well. Impressive!

Power Usage at Idle

For measuring power I use a tool called ‘powerstat‘. I close all the other user applications before running this command-line tool and leave the computer alone. I also make sure to have set the screen brightness to its maximum level, disable the screen turning OFF and Screensaver from running. Bluetooth is also OFF and Wi-Fi is turned ON, connected to the router. The video device (GPU) used while measuring the power was the Intel GPU. If I had used Nvidia 920M the readings would’ve easily been much higher.

Here’s are two screenshots from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon:

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS power usage at idle

Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Power usage (idle)

Here’s the graph I created based on the gathered data:

LM 18 Cinnamon vs Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - Power Usage Graph

They’re pretty much identical, although Linux Mint 18 did do slightly better. According to my notes, I was able to use the laptop for about 4.5 hours with screen brightness set to 15%-25% (I only use it indoors) and using the Intel GPU for primarily using for browsing web (including for writing a portion of this Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon review), also took a Skype call for 1 hour and 30 minutes (only used the webcams from both ends for about 40 minutes), ran Teamviewer once, and used VLC to watch some local videos on the HDD (when doing that I had turned OFF Wi-Fi).

I also installed a power usage reducer (optimizer) called TLP (sudo apt-get install tlp) and as you can see from the below screenshot, it was actually able to reduce the power usage of Linux Mint 18 by around 21.5% which is a lot!, as far as power usage is concerned.

Power Usage at Idle after install TLP (Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon)

Hardware Recognition

As I said in the beginning, this is a brand new laptop and unlike my previous one which I hand picked, had almost all of its hardware being ‘linux friendly’. This one however has one or two that could give me some trouble. Those will be the FocalTech touch pad, Qualcomm Wi-Fi adapter and the Nvidia 920M GPU (or the whole hybrid GPU setup). Driver Manager (Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon)

But luckily, all of these hardware were recognized by Linux Mint 18. I always like to use the proprietary GPU driver for the Nvidia 920M GPU. Installing it was so easy because Linux Mint ships with the driver manager that Ubuntu comes with.

Another added advantage of Linux Mint 18 was that it comes pre-installed with an applet that once you’ve installed the proprietary GPU driver for the Nvidia or AMD/ATI (Intel GPUs release open-source drivers which are included by default with the Kernel so no need to install them manually), you can switch between the two by clicking on the applet that’s running on the system tray area, although that still requires you to log out from the system. It also shows the currently active GPU as well.

Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon desktop's applet for switching between GPUs

Wi-Fi and Blutooth adapters were all properly configured and Linux Mint 18 was able to correctly restore the previously set status (ON/OFF) when loading the desktop. The FocalTech touch-pad seems to have had some issues with the Kernel in the near past, but it worked well by default on both operating systems. However, when the laptop recovers from Sleep (suspend), the touch-pad refuses to work. I tried many of the tips available online (removing the kernel module and re-inserting it) but none of it has worked so far. The only way to recover from it is to reboot the laptop.

So far, I’ve also never seen any core system utility or any user application crashes on both these operating systems either. So other than the touch-pad related issue, all the rest of the hardware (display screen, audio etc) and software has worked excellently on both operating systems.

System Responsiveness

It’s the main storage device of your computer that acts as the bottleneck when it comes to performance because it is one of the most important components of your computer (because it holds all of your data), but it is also one of the most slowest. Therefore, if an operating systems fails to intelligently manage the main storage device (especially when it is busy -- too many read/write requests), then that can lead to many performance related issues. This is also why operating systems tend to be horribly unresponsiveness when the main storage device is under stress. Therefore, one of the best ways of measuring the quality of an operating system is to actually make the main storage device quite busy and then to observe the type of responsiveness it delivers.

So what I usually do is very simple. I copy a file that’s about 1.5-1.6 GB within two locations of the logged in user’s Home folder. And just after as I’ve initiated the file copy process, I try to play a multimedia file (here I used VLC that I manually installed), and then try to open up a few programs through the start-menu by searching (this adds more ‘pressure’ on the hard disk because when you search for something it increases hard disk read requests). And then I also try to open a folder filled with a reasonable amount of files thorough the file manager, again to put as much ‘pressure’ on the main storage device as possible. While all this is happening, I also observe the mouse pointer’s behavior. For what? The answer is simple. Have you observed that when your computer becomes slow due to a busy hard disk, under sever conditions, the mouse pointer has a tendency to lose its responsiveness (its movements loses the smooth fluid nature that it previously had)? Thus, it’s also another pointer of the responsiveness of the operating system that you are testing.

So my judgment is as follows. Before the file copying finished, if the operating system was able to open most of the programs I tried to open, if the multimedia playback was able to keep on going without too many major interruptions and all the while, if the mouse sensitivity was not severely lost (because we’re talking about really stressing the storage device thus some lost is assumed), then I consider the operating system to be a responsive one. So I carried out the same test under both operating systems, and what was the end result?

Below image is just an illustration, no need to get too excited 😛 !

System Responsiveness test - Illustration (Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon)

It was really good under Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, but under Linux Mint 18 it was even better, it was superb! This is not surprising, because Linux Mint has always been an amazingly responsive under heavy disk stress. Both operating systems were able to open most of the programs I tried to open, play the multimedia file without any interruptions actually, didn’t lose the mouse pointer sensitivity at all, although file manager took a couple of seconds to open the location which is totally fine by me. So all in all, I was extremely pleased with Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon’s responsiveness.

Shutdown Delay

LM 18 Cinnamon vs Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - Shutdown Delay Graph

As you can see, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS is the clear winner here where it lead Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon by being 76% more faster. However, I don’t put a whole lot of empathize on the shutdown delay unless the delay is quite long, but 6.7 seconds of shutdown time is more than tolerable.

Final Words

Even after all these years, Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon is still lean on memory usage, boots relatively fast (compared to many other distributions), power efficient, extremely responsive, ran on the hardware very well (except for the touch-pad related issue which is not exactly Linux Mint’s fault), very stable and shutdown time was also quite good. As mentioned, the desktop is very easy to use, gives you a lot of options to customize, yet retains a sense of simplicity. And other major concerns of an everyday user nowadays such as Skype, web browsing, Adobe Flash playback, Teamviewer, multimedia playback etc were all extremely satisfying from my end.

I’ve witnessed a lot of respect for this GNU/Linux distribution over on many occasions, and this release is no exception. My verdict is simple: “This is how it should be done!” Thank you for reading (if you’ve made it this far) and please go to this page for the download instructions and to read the release notes (make sure to read it). Good luck.

61 thoughts on “Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Review: They Did it Again!

  1. Please don’t quote things that are not accurate and leading to almost FUD like, “nautilus does not have a compact view” it has always had that ability use settings 1st before making assumptions, I also blame the devs of many distros as well for not including gnome-tweak-tool, what would cinnamon be without its tools to tweak and customise, I personally don’t like biased reviews and nit picking other non related distros. Fedora I would agree is a testing developement distro but its not relevant when reviewing a newbie orientated Linux Mint they are like night and day.

    • Well hello there,

      I’m talking from my experience. I don’t see such an option (‘Compact View’) neither in Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Ubuntu 15.10 or in Fedora 23 file manager or in its Preferences widow. If you know how to enable it please do comment (please don’t tell me it can be done through Gnome-Tweak-Tool, that’s unacceptable).

      Secondly, there are no ‘non biased’ people, let alone reviews. These ideas are nothing but abstract concepts. Everyone is biased, one way or the other. Just the same way Democracy wants us to believe (well it tries to educate us at least) that people think freely, yet, I believe we all think within the boundaries of our cultures. No one is free that way (prove me wrong). Just the same way there are no ‘non-biased’ views, a view is a view, it is what it is.

  2. Installed it couple days ago… I have an old rig… vista finally gave up on me for whatever reason. Got into a laptop, rufus + usb, booted and installed just fine the first time. This first time I ever played with a Linux anything. I’ve always heard and read about Linux but never actually experienced it. Glad I choose Mint. Very impressed.

  3. On my laptop, LM 18 shutsdown at around 2-3 seconds.
    Ubuntu 16.04 takes 1 minute and 30 seconds to shutdown. Very annoying. There’s a process that will take 1 minutes and 30 seconds countdown when shutting down Ubuntu.

    • Hi Ken,

      Yes, the shutdown times can vary a bit, and on most occasions they’re hardware related (just out of curiosity, if you had been running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS with Wi-Fi enabled or any network connection for that matter when shutting down, try disabling the networks when you’re still on the desktop session, just before choosing to shutdown. If it improves the shutdown times, then it’s probably a network related issue. The reason I said this because I’ve had such issues with Ubuntu in the past).

  4. Excellent review as always Gayan. Loved your philosophical views as well! 🙂 Agree with your reply to mandog.

  5. You either missed the point or twisted it to suit your answer I never said it was in tweak-tool I said “I blame the devs of many distros as well for not including gnome-tweak tool”. It is the gnome settings manager after all and adds a vast amount of customisation as does Mints settings manager If you have ever used any of the commander type file managers gnome can mimic them view wise but only in a single pane and you can choose what you want to see detail wise. that is in the 1st drop down menu on the top panel the right hand top button , or are we not on the same plane here if so then my error.
    I never criticised your mint review I criticised the way you were putting down Fedora in a Mint review they are for totally different types of users. and you can’t really talk of Unity, Gnome, as they are for different users I personally don’t like a desktop that mimics windows, but some do but they compared to each other its like comparing a sports car and a 4×4 they are totally different, by all means give the good points of a desktop and how it performs that is fair
    So lets not fall out I usually like your reviews but this one is just two biased for my liking

    • First of all I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to get personal or anything. That said, I’ve tried the dconf-editor (in Ubuntu 15.10) and yes there is a setting for ‘compact-view’, but that doesn’t work! (yes I tried to apply it) The ‘description’ says ‘…Possible values are icon-view or list-view’.

      I also can’t agree with your view point of comparing Cinnamon, Unity and GNOME. They all compete in the same ‘space’ where the primary end-users are the desktop (laptops included) computer users. The reason many end-users are divided is because these desktops have their own ways of doing things, not necessarily because they don’t compete in the same market.

      Also, I’m talking from my experience, and I know that GNOME is a ‘special’ desktop where ‘innovation’ is a word that’s used to misguide people. I didn’t understand it for many years, but now I do. This word ‘innovation’ is used to hide the truth that it’s designed for the needs of a few people in mind. Why do you think they removed the ‘minimize’ button? They removed it because most professional developers sit in front of big screen monitors where they use user applications side-by-side (mostly two – code editor and probably a web browser). Developers hate scrolling (that’s why they use them big screen monitor) and minimizing or switching between apps, that’s something they rarely do. That’s why they removed it. Not because that would’ve made your life or my life or the average life of the typical end-user, easy. To how many people did you think they reach out to ask ‘Hey, do you like this? 2, yes that’s right. And those 2 people were not typical end-users, but their own fellow community members who must have also been developers. And this is not the first time they’ve done something like this, they’ve done it many times in the past. And yes, that’s only my opinion.

      Again, I’d like to apologize if I seemed rude. That was unintentional my friend.

  6. Gayan, thanks for the review. I have learned a ton from your site over the years.

    As to the comments by mandog… well, IMO, nothing more than an obvious troll. Handled him well you did 🙂

  7. Instead of using your android phone to measure startup times, once the desktop settles go to a terminal and type “systemd-analyze” and it’ll give you an ACTUAL time from UEFI loading all the way to when the GUI has finished loading. If you type “systemd-analyze blame” it’ll show you the startup times of all services and you can see which services may be causing your computer to start more slowly than you’d like. With Ubuntu’s switch to Systemd from upstart, you get all kinds of really neat and fun tools to mess around with to figure out what’s going on with your system.

    • Hi,

      Thank you for the tip. However, ‘systemd-analyze’ doesn’t actually include the desktop loading session. It stops measuring the boot-up process after the login manager (whether you’ve had enabled auto-login or not). Yes I’ve used it in the past and I’m talking from my experience.

  8. I’ll ignore the troll ? comment by a reader
    People that call others a troll 99% of the time its them that are the trolls. “Taken from the urban dictionary”.

    I really don’t want to correct you but users are being misled by a majority of reviewers on a number of issues
    I’m a Gnome user besides others like OB/ JWM and the like, I don’t mislead anybody neither does Gnome I have all 3 buttons its part of the many comprehensive settings in Gnome tweak-tool “under the title windows” you have a choice 1,2,or 3 buttons, as I said its part of gnome, Distro devs ignore it for some reason including R/H fedora. I suggest you install gnome then tweak-tool and see for your self then you may find most of what you have read is just not accurate, gnome also supports a few of the Extensions certainly in Arch Linux along along with minimal installs like I use Fedora does not. Compact mode in nautilus has upto 9 columns I use it a lot with 7 tb+ of data. I don’t know what ubuntu does with settings in unity as I have never had the urge to use it.
    you certainly don’t need dconf-editor for nautilus, dconf-editor is mainly inoperative lately, I told you where the settings are on the top header panel using gnome.
    Like I said before nothing against Cinnamon nor the Cinnamon review just inaccurate quotes that’s all.
    The button at the bottom say post comment that is all I’m doing you did invite people to comment?

    I’ll repeat what i said at the end of my last reply
    So lets not fall out I usually like your reviews as I and enjoy them and have told you that on previous reviews.

    • First of all, the ‘Compact View’, nautilus on Ubuntu 15.10, 16.04 LTS, Fedora 23 and Fedora 24, it is simply not there. And, the compact view by default in not included in the file manager’s coding in GNOME starting with the version 3.6 because they officially removed it (Google it). The reason Arch has it, I suspect, should be because just like Linux Mint, they apply their own ‘fixes’ (so does Ubuntu actually) to the file manager, before compiling.

      As for the removal of Maximize and especially the Minimize button, I don’t care if you can enable it or not (yes I knew how to enable it. I don’t want to sound cocky or arrogant and only want to mention this humbly, I also have been a somewhat long time GNOME user, have been using it for about 13 years now), the point was that even if you enable it, to where do you minimize the applications? In simple words, the whole idea of application minimization is not there anymore with GNOME3 (core GNOME developers have expressed why they don’t think it’s necessary anymore few years ago when GNOME3 was first released. I don’t remember the exact URLs, but you should be able to find it through Google). And this is why I don not think that what I said was misleading.

      Because again my argument is not baseless. The reason why some of these features are not enabled (some such as ‘Compact View’ are not even coded into apps) by default in GNOME3 is because the desktop is not willing to support their functionality. The developers don’t think they’re ‘important’ for most end-users (when did they ask the users what they think anyway). And it is this mentality that I criticized. I’ve always felts its presence all these years of using GNOME, again, this is what I criticized and am criticizing, it’s that simple.

      And yes I know you’ve commented on my previous reviews also, and you were polite as well (thank you for that). And please, never hesitate to share your opinion on my blog either. And also remember I never called you a troll. And, I really am not trying to win an argument for the sake of ‘winning’ (I’m not that immature). I always listen to reason. And whenever I criticize GNOME, some users always feel offended, but again, I just have to remind them that I too am a GNOME user, although these days I’m more inclined towards using Ubuntu (Ubuntu, just like Linux Mint, still uses a lot of GNOME technologies anyway) especially after Fedora 23. Thank you for your input, I appreciate it (I really do).

  9. Fedora 24 is very good.. You guys just got to learn how to make it work. Just like Ubuntu’s newest . Plus I think Gnome 3 desktop is better then Mate and Cinnamon. Tried both just not my liking ! If Mint had Gnome 3 I would use it. I have been using Linux since the late 90’s and Unix back in the days in the Navy. Thirty -five yrs

    • Hi Glenn,

      I have been using Linux since the late 90’s and Unix back in the days in the Navy

      Wow!, respect! 🙂 . Can you be more specific on why you like GNOME3 more? What is your opinion about KDE and the evolution of GNOME? Thank you.

  10. Very powerful and uses little resources ( Gnome 3) . Fast ! Love the terminal .. KDE is okay but uses a lot of resources even thou my desktop has plenty ram cpu, gpu etc. Back in the day when we used Novell for our networking solutions the interface was a very early Gnome I think . Gnome2 was very good, again using little resources .I also use Antergos most of the time.. very nice operating system..

    • Yes, GNOME is very fast. In other words, they’re excellent at implementing technical solutions (some that I also have praised many times). Thank you for the input.

  11. Thank you for the great review. I do have a quick question. Did you install both the nVidia driver as well as the Intel microcode driver? I have always just installed the nVidia and left the Intel one alone.

  12. I know that the panel launchers now include app actions, I wonder if they also provide a cue for open apps, so they can be maxed and minned from the launcher. Not that the big honking, real estate hogging window list isn’t lovely in a retro way like an old Pacer, it would look right in place on your 1984 desktop pic.

  13. Nice review. could you please conduct a stability test by keeping the system running for a week.. Then u are right.. compact view was removed by STUPID gnome developers.. even so called ubuntu stick with gnome stance by not forking it. But Mint team see the distro from the point of end users and implement the features that practically needed for getting works done.. I think mint xfce is more perfectly fit to desktop than cinnamon.. esp for developers..

    • Thank you Satish, and yes, I still have Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon installed on the new laptop. Although in the past two days, I’ve been using my old Dell laptop, I have been using the new one from time to time as well. But I’ll use it (new laptop) primarily for the next 2 or 3 days and update the article if something comes up.

  14. hi Im running linux mint 18 Cinnamon but i just can’t get the wifi set up ,i have followed all that i can find on the net but still no luck’ i have installed on to a dell latitude d620′ wifi works with windows ? i have done driver manager and install as suggested but still no go any help would be appreciated’

    • Hi Mark,

      If your Wi-Fi adapter is recognized by the operating system, then Cinnamon should display a Wi-Fi icon on the task-bar. You should also be able to change the same settings through the Network Manager as well.

  15. Hi,
    My opinion is that cinnamon looks very polished but is rather more difficult to get personalized, comparing it with LXDE or better XFCE. On the other hand, I think both XFCE and LXDE offer more to personalize desktop but the overall feeling of the desktop is not as polished and professional as Cinnamon, IMHO.

    What do you think? Best regards.

    • Hi Marco,

      Well, Cinnamon is quite customizable actually. You can change a lot of its settings through the Systems Settings and a lot of settings are also available through the bottom task-bar as well. There are also Cinnamon applets that add lots of additional functionality as well.

  16. Got into Linux 7 mts ago. Loved it. Used 13, 16, 17, 17.3 over the months. I have a real bias for KDE. So I was pretty disappointed when I waited months for Sarah x64 KDE Beta (only one available right now) & found it wanting in so many ways I would need a week to relate them. Youtube-dl, Nestopia, Virtual Desktop wallpapers (no options), faulty installations from the Package Manager…..30% of it didn’t seem to work property ! I was using Sarah Cinnamon while waiting. Think i’ll go back to it until a stable version of Sarah KDE comes out.

  17. “Linux Mint has always been an amazingly responsive under heavy disk stress.”

    You’re joking, right? Mint 17.1 2 or .3 with Cinnamon and Nemo are excruciatingly/embarrassingly slow and buggy where it comes to moving files or copying files within the same partition, or to another internal or external drive.

    When copying or moving even a handful of files, a window pops up that says “preparing to” copy or move. 100%+ CPU horsepower being sucked up by Nemo, but nothing happens. 5 or 10 minutes later it begins copying, but seriously I could copy the files faster with an electron microscope and pencil. Emptying the trashcan does the same. WTF does “preparing to empty” mean? Just empty the damn thing!

    And Nemo can’t handle moving or copying files in parallel, only sequentially. So if I ask Nemo to copy a handful of files, then grab some others and copy them elsewhere Nemo will refuse and shows me a “preparing” error window again for an extended period of time. I thought pre-emptive multi-tasking was mastered long ago, maybe even before we had multi-core cpus.

    This bug has been known for at least 5 years in the forums, so I’m not sure where you got your info about Mint’s ability under stress.

    Another bug that keeps popping constantly is Nemo has found a problem with with your thumbnails and asking for your root password to fix. Frankly, even if I trusted Nemo why would I want to give up my root password every 3 minutes? Potential for Nemo to wreak havoc. I’ve tried fixing the cache and other suggestions found on the web without success.

    Again, this bug has been known for many years so you may want to refer to updated sources next time you make a broad subjective statement about how “good” Mint is at certain tasks.

    I love Mint because it does so many things well, but unfortunately I’m hearing these Nemo issues have not been fixed in version 18 so I may have to consider other options.

    • “This bug has been known for at least 5 years in the forums, so I’m not sure where you got your info about Mint’s ability under stress.”

      I was talking from my direct experience (as I pointed out in the review). That said, I have not tried to copy a large number of files in it.

    • Re. Rich H comment above:

      1.) “Mint 17.1 2 or .3 with Cinnamon and Nemo are excruciatingly/embarrassingly slow and buggy where it comes to moving files or copying files within the same partition, or to another internal or external drive.”

      It has nothing to do with Cinnamon and Nemo. It may happen with DoubleCommander or Nautilus in Mate or Ubuntu etc. Please read this discussion:
      https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1208993
      and
      https://lonesysadmin.net/2013/12/22/better-linux-disk-caching-performance-vm-dirty_ratio/

      2.) “And Nemo can’t handle moving or copying files in parallel, only sequentially.”
      — It conceived by design, because simultaneous copying two or more big files from (or to) same partitions will stall any OS from WIndows to LInux.
      Anyway you can switch it off – Go to Nemo > Preferences> Behavior > “Disable file operation queuing”

      • Good info, but not entirely relevant. Cinnamon/Nemo are at fault because I’m not running Nautilus or Mate, plus I was talking about internal to internal copying/transfers as well as usb to internal and internal to usb. Speeds slow to a crawl.

        I don’t copy or move large files, nothing bigger than 20-30mb per file usually much smaller but many of my file operations involve large quantity of files, all variety of file extensions/formats. Files created with DOS, 3.1, 98, XP, 7, Mac and Linux.

        I neglected to mention Cinnamon/Nemo crash constantly when dealing with symlinks and files/folders that have had their permissions changed recently.

        Also if you’re using Nemo to search for a file and decide to terminate the search prematurely using the X or the red stop button, Cinnamon/Nemo crash out. All icons on your desktop disappear and (checking running processes via the top command) Cinnamon and Nemo are not running. To fix this, I simply restart Nemo.

        I am pleased to report the copy/move speed problem and the constant thumbnail errors seem to have been fixed after I nuked my Mint 17.3 and did a fresh install of Mint 18 – however, Cinnamon/Nemo still crash consistently as listed above.

        I agree Mint 18 is AWESOME, but it’s not entirely stable. Not yet.

  18. Excelente comentario de una gran distro,aunque yo soy por las distros rolling release,pero Mint ,no deja de ser interesante y facil de usar,muy apropiada,para los usuarios que quieren comenzar en el mundo de Linux.

    Saludos Gayan.

  19. You wrote, and I quote:
    “Linux Mint is not restricted to their in house built Cinnamon desktop but also features the Xfce (not updated to the ’18’ release yet) and the MATE desktop.”

    You forget the nicest DE: KDE. It leaves all others far behind and yet not one word about it. Amazing.

  20. I agree that Mint is a great choice but I am completely baffled by the comment on Fedora. I am new to Linux and after trying almost every big distro I ended up with Fedora 24. In my view this is the best distro of 2016. Once you enable all the third part software and tweaks with Fedy everything works like a charm and is super polished.

  21. I do like Mint better than any other distro. I’m a bit old school in how I like to navigate a OS. Maybe that’s because I started out with Windows 3.1 vintage and have proceeded to work in that familiar UI. Really, this is a main reason why I am trying Linux again because for me Windows 10 detracts away from what I want in a OS. Which is to provide a familiar UI and not all the clutter that Windows 10 brings. It’s also why I dumped OS X a couple years back. Because Apple was beginning to try and shoehorn IOS junk into a perfectly good desktop OS. I had a iPhone for IOS I didn’t need that much integration junk on OS X. Ubuntu is perfectly fine if your willing to learn the new UI. I myself am just not in that camp with Unity.

  22. Dude, honestly , Fedora is the redbeanie’s lab rat. It’s like having windows 10-continuously beta tester for life.
    It was so slow to me that i deleted it in 30 min.
    It took me 15 minutes to understand howto install without frikin LVM, in all that mess of an installer. And I used linux since 2007.
    The started the constant regular freezing,with HDD trashing like in Windows Vista.
    Fedora it’s a almost-beta qulity lab play, not a system to use for stable things.

  23. Hello:

    I come from a long background in MS OSs, from W3.1 to XP with a *very* short look at what came afterwards.

    I finally made the change and have been using Linux Mint for a good while now, first Mint 17 and now Mint 18 64bit with the default Cinnamon desktop.

    The main issue I have with the desktop (managed by the default Nemo file manager) is the lack of the ‘snap to’ or ‘align icons’ functionality of the MS OSs and have had the very same complaint from all the people I have been able to persuade to try Linux Mint, to the extent of having at least two of them bail out because of it.

    While this may seem a silly attitude, it is important to acknowledge that people who are not particularly tech savvy (or even if they to a certain extent) do not want to get into a different OS (however good it may be) that will take them away from what they know how to use and have tried successfully for years.

    And this very specific functionality (there’s no doubt that MS has the desktop scene down pat, as they say) is one of those things that people know how to use, have used successfully for years and are very much accustomed to.

    This ‘feature’, which IMO should have been part of the initial design, has been requested at Github from as far back as 2012 and regularly on up to present day but the request has been ignored, with no one being assigned to the task or a milestone set. It is an issue that is very much present in the web, just ask all-knowing Google about it.

    Like I wrote a few days ago:

    … if small relevant things like these don’t get both looked at and fixed, each everyday user we can convince to move away from Windows and towards Linux stands a good chance of losing interest and end up going back to what they know works as they are used to seeing it work.

    Thus, the lesser efforts (in comparison to coders/programmers) made by people like me to move Linux based OS into the common man’s desktop end up being thwarted, most times irreparably so.

    This is not the only gripe I have, there’s also the disconnection issue of the ath_ drivers that has been present for yeras and still is, with no fix in sight.

    Just my $0.02.
    As always, YMMV.

    Cheers.

  24. An extremely slow internet on my Lenovo G570 with the system. My internet browsers running very slow. I had no problems with Ubuntu 15. Ubuntu 16.04 has the same problem.

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